Comments on: Scriptable Plug-ins http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/ Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:19:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: crex http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1753 crex Wed, 04 Apr 2007 08:15:37 +0000 http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1753 Splendid idea to make it possible to use scripted plugins. That would be interesting to try out. Looking forward reading more on how communicating with Genesis is done. A pity that Jakarta BSF doesn't support the most used Internet scripting languages: PHP, Perl, VBScript ... but the onces supported are powerful enough. Could be a reason to learn a new language :) I'm impressed by the pace you set in this project. Good work! Splendid idea to make it possible to use scripted plugins. That would be interesting to try out. Looking forward reading more on how communicating with Genesis is done. A pity that Jakarta BSF doesn’t support the most used Internet scripting languages: PHP, Perl, VBScript … but the onces supported are powerful enough. Could be a reason to learn a new language :)

I’m impressed by the pace you set in this project. Good work!

]]> By: Hilton http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1757 Hilton Thu, 05 Apr 2007 00:37:13 +0000 http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1757 Thanks! I wish there was support for those languages as well, but I guess noone has taken upon themselves the task of writing an interpreter for them in Java. Personally I'm quite excited to start writing plug-ins in Ruby. Thanks! I wish there was support for those languages as well, but I guess noone has taken upon themselves the task of writing an interpreter for them in Java. Personally I’m quite excited to start writing plug-ins in Ruby.

]]> By: Anders Berg http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1761 Anders Berg Thu, 05 Apr 2007 05:42:08 +0000 http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1761 Support for php and perl would have been nice...! Regarding date interpretation and making it searchable you should focus on just the year, and leave the rest for the moment. When searching I see no need to be search more specific. The presentation should make it sortable, ie with year, month and day in that order. Just another thought. Did you ever consider making this a web project rather than a stand-alone program? Support for php and perl would have been nice…!

Regarding date interpretation and making it searchable you should focus on just the year, and leave the rest for the moment. When searching I see no need to be search more specific. The presentation should make it sortable, ie with year, month and day in that order.

Just another thought. Did you ever consider making this a web project rather than a stand-alone program?

]]> By: Jesper Zedlitz http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1763 Jesper Zedlitz Thu, 05 Apr 2007 06:01:20 +0000 http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1763 Keyword "web project": It would be nice if Gensis' logic could be separated from code needed to build the Eclipse GUI. I am working on a web application for DFT (that will eventually replace my very projects http://gedbas.genealogy.net, http://adressbuecher.genealogy.net and several other databases at genealogy.net) Keyword “web project”: It would be nice if Gensis’ logic could be separated from code needed to build the Eclipse GUI.

I am working on a web application for DFT (that will eventually replace my very projects http://gedbas.genealogy.net, http://adressbuecher.genealogy.net and several other databases at genealogy.net)

]]> By: Hilton http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1766 Hilton Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:23:06 +0000 http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1766 I knew I would be doing this as a thick client from the start for a number of reasons. First of all, I want Genesis to do inference, which requires a lot of processing time and it makes more sense (to me) to do all that work on each person's computer rather than on a server. Second, I wanted a very nice user interface without sinking a lot of time in it. Finally, I'd like to write a peer-to-peer layer plug-in for Genesis in the future. At the same time, however, I'm being careful to separate the logic from the UI. If anyone ever wants to reuse the logic code in a web application they're welcome to. Furthermore, we may see a framework in the future that can produce a web UI from Eclipse UI code (http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/rsp/). I'm <i>really</i> excited about the work Jesper is doing on a web application for the DFT though. Not only will it really empower Genesis, but I think it will have a significant impact on Internet genealogy as a whole. I knew I would be doing this as a thick client from the start for a number of reasons. First of all, I want Genesis to do inference, which requires a lot of processing time and it makes more sense (to me) to do all that work on each person’s computer rather than on a server. Second, I wanted a very nice user interface without sinking a lot of time in it. Finally, I’d like to write a peer-to-peer layer plug-in for Genesis in the future.

At the same time, however, I’m being careful to separate the logic from the UI. If anyone ever wants to reuse the logic code in a web application they’re welcome to. Furthermore, we may see a framework in the future that can produce a web UI from Eclipse UI code (http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/rsp/).

I’m really excited about the work Jesper is doing on a web application for the DFT though. Not only will it really empower Genesis, but I think it will have a significant impact on Internet genealogy as a whole.

]]> By: Anders Berg http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1769 Anders Berg Thu, 05 Apr 2007 21:37:26 +0000 http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1769 I am myself working on a web application similar to DFT. I came up with this idea independently of you and Jesper. I was just recently informed of your work. My approach is slightly different. I focus on several different sources, both web sites such as PGV and public databases, and I also concentrate on material from my home country Sweden. The idea is however similar. To be able to search in detail and easily access a wide variety of genealogical data spread over a large number of places on the net. The site is mainly in Swedish, but you can try it out at http://personsok.scangen.se I am doing this for my own personal enjoyment and it is not part of any commercial enterprise or larger genealogical project. I think most Swedish phpGedView sites are included. It is not widely in use. I am myself working on a web application similar to DFT. I came up with this idea independently of you and Jesper. I was just recently informed of your work. My approach is slightly different. I focus on several different sources, both web sites such as PGV and public databases, and I also concentrate on material from my home country Sweden. The idea is however similar. To be able to search in detail and easily access a wide variety of genealogical data spread over a large number of places on the net.

The site is mainly in Swedish, but you can try it out at

http://personsok.scangen.se

I am doing this for my own personal enjoyment and it is not part of any commercial enterprise or larger genealogical project.

I think most Swedish phpGedView sites are included. It is not widely in use.

]]> By: Hilton http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1770 Hilton Fri, 06 Apr 2007 00:00:49 +0000 http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1770 This looks really great! Recently a subset of the PGV web service (http://api.coret.org/zoeken/genealogyservice/) was implemented on the Genealogie Online website (http://www.genealogieonline.nl/), making over 2.2 million names available with a single request (which is <i>much</i> faster than searching PGV sites one-by-one as you already know). If you're willing, I think it would be wonderful for Genesis to be able to search your site when looking for data. Or if we can cooperate in some other way, please let me know! This looks really great!

Recently a subset of the PGV web service (http://api.coret.org/zoeken/genealogyservice/) was implemented on the Genealogie Online website (http://www.genealogieonline.nl/), making over 2.2 million names available with a single request (which is much faster than searching PGV sites one-by-one as you already know). If you’re willing, I think it would be wonderful for Genesis to be able to search your site when looking for data. Or if we can cooperate in some other way, please let me know!

]]> By: Anders Berg http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1771 Anders Berg Fri, 06 Apr 2007 08:07:46 +0000 http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1771 Let's see if we can combine our forces at some stage. I will keep following your work of course! I don't think you should at this stage "hook up" on my "personsök" (Person Search) because it is also at an early stage in development. I need to look over a number of things apart from adding more material. I also wish to monitor my traffic regarding bandwidth for some time. You can however add my PGV site to Genesis: http://scangen.se/phpgedview/ All the best and Happy Easter, Anders Let’s see if we can combine our forces at some stage. I will keep following your work of course! I don’t think you should at this stage “hook up” on my “personsök” (Person Search) because it is also at an early stage in development. I need to look over a number of things apart from adding more material. I also wish to monitor my traffic regarding bandwidth for some time.

You can however add my PGV site to Genesis:

http://scangen.se/phpgedview/

All the best and Happy Easter,
Anders

]]> By: Hilton http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1774 Hilton Sat, 07 Apr 2007 00:22:37 +0000 http://www.dftproject.org/blog/2007/04/03/scriptable-plug-ins/#comment-1774 That makes sense, just let me know. You can add your site at http://www.dftproject.org/registry/ (which will allow you to use your own e-mail address and password). And Happy Easter to you too! That makes sense, just let me know. You can add your site at http://www.dftproject.org/registry/ (which will allow you to use your own e-mail address and password). And Happy Easter to you too!

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